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Why Chinese ancient knowledge has survived more than Indian system?

It is very fascinating to me to see that Chinese medicine dominate the healthcare in Hong Kong. Ayurveda, the ancient Indian system of medicine is at best just helping people from losing their hair or easing their bowel movement. For people how know about ayurveda, will endorse that it is a fairly advanced system of medicine. Similar story for therapautic massages, or say martial arts – Kalaripayyatu is far gone when Shaolin is venerated. I really do not want to get into the analysis of if one  system was stronger than the other. But at a high level, I can say the counterparts in Chinese ancient body knowledge and of Indian are both nearly of the same merit. Then, how are Chinese methods surviving and thriving so well, making the Indian system envious.

If I am forced to explain that in one sentence – Colonisation happened before commercialisation in India and vice-versa in China.

I am hoping to research this area one level more and publish those thoughts. But think of it. The British came with their system of medicine (of other things) and the semi-literate (but well knowledgable) village doctor was discredited. Had this village doctor understood the concept of commercialisation, branding and scientific analysis of the product, he would have given a good run for the money to the new system.

While in China, the got colonised quite late and quite briefly. The system was better equipped to learn about the ‘ways of the white man’ and the body of medicine got institutionalised well to guard itself aganist the near annhilation from the western mode of medicine.

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Mandarin / Chinese Classes in Bangalore

This was an accidental discovery. I was looking for Mandarin Classes in Bangalore for sometime now but couldnt find one for a longtime. Just chanced upon this corner ad in the newspaper and quickly enrolled for this. I can only guess why didnt I get this on google search possibly because it is called ‘Chinese Institute of Chennai’ 

Chinese Institute of Chennai was setup on the directiosn of N. Balakrishnan who is a Hong Kong Resident. They have been successfully conducting classes for a few years now. The Bangalore Center started just this year and already 3-4 batches have gone through the training. I attended the Level 1 course.

The Level 1 is for 40 hours split into 10 hours per weekend. The sessions are logical split into 4 parts and taught over 5 hours each on Saturday & Sunday. The course has a clear focus – making one comfortable with the day to day conversations in any Chinese City. It doesnt spend too much time in characters which by itself is a mammoth task. One gets to learn pronounciation in Mandarin which is one of the biggest challenges for self learning and teaches pinyin (phonetic representation of Chinese sounds).

The course covers a wide range of topics including how to introduce oneself, how to shop, how to do office conversations, how to order your food in a very systematic manner. It is not very didactic but more practise based. The most imporatant thing is one is compelled to sound out (funny as it may sometimes end up sounding) the words in front of the audience. It takes off a lot of inhibition of speaking Chinese which for the uninitiated looks like making faces.

Mandarin / Chinese has to be learnt in context. Chinese Institute of Chennai – Bangalore Centre (CICBC) has structured its course which utilises audio video content to best give the feel of China. Each day has a video session which describes different cities or different aspects of Chinese culture. There are Karaoke videos played for one to grasp the meaning of the songs with the subtitles.

The centre, albeit small, is run very professionally. The class room is air conditioned, equipped with audio-visual aids and has ample parking places around it for students.The small student – teacher ratio helps in better coordination and learning.

Level 1 courses are conducted 5-6 times per year and Level 2 on demand.

I would strongly recommend this course to anyone who wants to get an introduction to China. Corporate sessions can also be arranged on request.Arun, the centre head is a very friendly person and is more than willing to guiding you with anything related to information on China.

This course is like a parachute; If suddenly dropped in China, for whatever reason, business or pleasure, be assured one will land safely and surive there! 


Contact Bangalore Center
No 129, 8th main,
19th Cross, CHBS Layout,
Opp BDA Complex, Vijayanagar
Bangalore 560 040
Phone: +91 98865 42488

Email: bangalore@chennaichinese.com

Web: http://chennaichinese.com/bangalore/index.html

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I am back

I am back to the blogosphere hopefully for good. I had gotten off this for more than a year for reasons from work and personal life. I had my ups and downs in both of them for a long time now and now things seems to have gotten back into control.

I hope to tell you more about what I have been doing over past few months while I was not typing in this window.

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‘What caste is …?’

My mom made an ISD call to find what caste was Anjan. I had no clue. The funny thing was Anjan was my childhood pal, about whom I knew everything – likes, dislikes, first crush, favourite food, passions et al. ‘Caste’ did not ever feature in ‘everything’. Anjan was one of the MEB’s (Most Eligible Bachelor), serving Naval officer with all things one can admire about.

My mom had apparently seen a girl and wanted to know what ‘caste’ Anjan belonged so as do the match making. Did it matter to Anjan what caste she was, hell know but parents were hell bent on matching it.

Caste emerged as a social structure in the Indian society and has outlived its utility in most of the places. Anjan is a Brahmin (priest class) serving in the Navy and hence performing duties of a Kshatriya (warrior class). His father has his own business and adheres to the role of Vaishnavas (business class). But suddenly when it comes to marriage, parents remember what class they originally belong to.

Casteism is anchronistic phenomenon in the Indian urban society but a favourite past time of people for ocaassions like marriage. Suddenly, it becomes ‘us and them’

It would be really interesting to see how the new country with 700Mn below 25years who have entered the new millenium with internet connections, mobile phones and mobile jobs will eventually alter these old institutions.

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‘Are you a virgin?’

<Inspired by a real question but fictionalised. Any characters resembling any person dead or alive is purely intentional. Names changed. Opinions are largely in Indian middle-class perspective>

‘Are you a virgin’? , It struck Anshu right on the face when she asked it. Like, near death experience his life flashed before his eyes, the girls he had tried to woo, the girls who tried to woo him, those evenings at the disco, those drunken days…. those days of forced celibacy. Being a virgin was a matter of pride for him, a indicator of his self control, the pillar of his personality, the foundation of his thought that relationship should not be based on just physical interaction.

‘Are you a virgin?’ sounded really cool, when Mahima Choudhary asked in Pardes . We all gossiped about it and really felt that Indian Cinema had come of age. Almost a decade later when Sarla asked him this question, he went through the near-death experience.

Arranged marriage had already become a nightmare for Anshu like many a men in India because one has to conform to a system he didnt believe in but had no choice than bow to the societal pressures falling on conservative boy who grew up in the hinterland. He was forced to go through the charade of meeting girls and asking about their ‘long-term goals’ (sic). He liked bold girls, one with substance, but this one was especially bold and she started off our discussion with this question.

He recovered a minute later and replied ‘ What would you prefer?’ She rhetorically replied, ‘ I want my future husband to be a virgin’. He drew a long breath and said ‘Sarla, before I answer your question, let me give you a perspective’

‘Dont judge a person in binary – virgin or not. There are 3 kinds of virgins and 3 kinds of non-virgins. The first kind of virgin is because of the society. He is afraid of what would happen if he crosses the line drawn by the society. The second type is because of lack of opportunity. He is all set to ‘do it’ but there are no takers. The third type is the one who believes, love should precede physical relationship and hasnt taken any relationship beyond love. Type I is a coward, Type II is a horny loser, Type III is of the noble type’

‘Non-virgins are again of 3 types. The first kind because he got into a relationship which blossomed into love and furthered into love making. The second kind is the one who is found lurking around the one-night-stand and has sleazy escapades. The third has paid money to lose his V. ‘

Type I is the true lover. Type II is a horny hog. Type III is a dirty dog.

I consider a true lover who has severed his old ties more desirable than any type of virin and a coward only better than a dirty dog. ‘

‘A Type I or II virgin wouldnt be able to be as loyal as the Type I non-virgin. I prefer to be a true lover than any other kind of virgin’

She was fretting impatiently while he was giving her unsolicited advise. Then she must have been thinking ‘Just tell me yes or no’

The discussion for me was over there. Anshu nonchalantly started walking away muttering ‘ The world is not black and white’. While she was just about to stamp ‘no-virgin’, Anshu turned back and said ‘By the way, I am virgin’

Anshu told me this story over a couple of drinks. I asked him why he walked away with just one question. He replied ‘She was not of my type’. Sometimes just one question screams out many a answer.

I was reflecting on how our generation is like a half boiled egg – the outer layer is firm but inner layer is so fluidy and confused. I relate to Anshu quite well because we are of such similar backgrounds. Having brought up in the hinterland of the Hindi belt, being a (pre-marital) celibate, tee-totaler, non-smoker is a sign of noble man. The values were fine when the world was so black and white but not anymore. People who have violate the Hindu tenet of ‘not crossing the seven seas’ going around the world, have seen the firm foundation of ‘values’ wobbling on its knees.

Anyways, Anshu is yet to find his life companion. With his permission, I decided to blog his theory because I thought it would bring things in perspective.

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Turning Left

Funny while I am thriving on the capitalist world, my thoughts have suddenly turned left. I am one of the examples of ‘shining India’. While I walk through the representatives of ‘wealth’, ‘progress’ in the countries I have lived for the past couple of years and then compare it to home, I wonder – ‘Is this progress really worth it?’

The GDP in India has grown by 9% while the people below the poverty line has remained steady. More Maybachs and Rolls Royce rolling on the street while same number of farmers committ suicide every year.

Capitalism is a dangerous thing when social security does not exist in a country. If progress of a country is reveled by noting the increase in the number of sales of coke bottles or detergents, we are missing something fundamental. While I was in the B-School, I was glad to know that we were the 4th largest economy and rested on the fact that we will be the second by year 2050 (or whichever). Would being the top GDP company make us any better country? Seeing the direction we are going, the answer is no.

We rank in the bottom 10 percentile in HDI, Woman Rights and all the related indices. A country cannot advance if the wealth is not evenly distributed. Dont mistake that I am propagating the message of communism. We need a more socially conscious market. The public-private partnership should give a (now famously proven) ‘headstart’ for the poorer masses in terms of better health, education and exposure.

We should stop forgetting that India, as Gandhiji said, ‘ is the land of villages’. Notwithstanding the fact that my family income must have increased by 15-20 times post-liberation, I wonder if we really made any progress over these years. The same number of people die out of starvation, 1/3rd of our people are still illiterate.

It helps to look a little left while riding the mammoth of capitalist economy!

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Ghar Aya Pardesi…tera desh bulaya re

I had two important meetings lined up just before I took the flight from Taipei. And between 2 means and one changeover,  I didnt realise when I hit Mumbai. I was still dressed in black business suit. The first thing that hit me was weather. Ok, I cant complain about mother nature but as I entered the closed premises of the airport, mother nature seem to carry her influence even inside because uncle AC wasnt powerful enough to stop her.

Then came the customs. I am not worried about getting across customs except in my own motherland. I had tonnes of electronics on me, although legit, I was worried that I may be their next victim to fund their bottle of scotch. Surprisingly,  I came out clean, not before 1 hour of wait for the luggage.

Whoever opposed the renovation of the Mumbai airport, should be taken to Bangkok, Djkarta which have more corrupt officials, lazier denizens yet… run a contrastingly spectacular international airports. The workers there, in turn, make more money unlike what the red flag bearers in India claim.

As if this much of reality wasnt good enough for a day, the guy at the taxi stand asked me ‘Sir, America kya.. dus-bees dedo’ (Sir, are you returning from America, Give me some tip).  As I entered the taxi, I asked what happened to the AC and was told that it broke down last week.

Just in the morning, I had got into a air-conditioned Merc in a black business suit to complete some business, and in the night, i was a completely ruffled dump, stuck in the mid-night Mumbai traffic without AC.

I dont want to sound like a snotty NRI but there are some things we take for granted and say with pride ‘of our rich culture’. I remember what SR Khan saying in ‘Swades’ humara desh mahaan nahi hain, mahaan banneka khabiliyat zaroor hain  (Our country is not the greatest, but has full potential to become one). I dont like to attribute, the corruption in the airport, the unclean toilets, the robbers in guise of autorickshaws, to our rich culture.  It is time to put our act together and poise for real greatness.

Anyways, dirty rickshaws, mindless traffic, hot weather, custom-thugs apart… I am finally back home.. my own home, where I really belong! Anywhere else in the world I am a ‘Alien Resident’ but this is one place I am myself.. as good or bad as I am.

I will be India for 10 days.

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Indians in Taipei

There are few things Indians should know when they are living in Taipei – whether they have come through their companies or on their own.  I have been involved in setting up the branch of our company and there are some things I learnt which I  want to share with you guys.

1. Indians cannot get a landing visa. You need to come with a Business / Visitor Visa

2. India does not consider Taiwan as a country and officially treats it as ‘Renegade State of China’. Nevertheless, we have good relationship with Taiwan. India Taipei Association is the de facto Indian representative. It is located on the 20th floor of World Trade Center (Near MRT: City Hall – Blue Line). Please visit the Director General in case you have any troubles or want to clarify on your visa.

3. There is an orkut community for Indians in Taipei,  Click the link to join

4. There is an Indian store called Trinity close to Gate 4 of Blue line MRT: Taipei City Hall. One can get Indian sweets, spices, snacks and Hindi movie CDs.  The address is M/s. Trinity Super Stores, / F, NO : 137, Chung Shiao East Road, ec 5, Taipei,Taiwan

5. Dont worry about vegetarian food in Taiwan. 8 months and no kitchen, I am happily settled eating Chinese veg.  Message me for more details.

6. You can get calling cards for calling up India at rates as less as 6NT per minute. Leave me a scrap / comment to get more information on this.

7. Indian communities are concentrated in Taipei, Hsinchu and marginally in Taoyuan.

8. For Indian restaurants in Taipei visit http://wannderer.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/indian-restaurants-in-taipei/

Indians are really respected in Taiwan because of our ‘intellect’.  Although the brown skin may not help you score in the discos, it is highly respected and hopefully you would rise up to the level of respect we get here.

Taipei is a great place, have fun!

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The West , The Chinese and the Indians

This is continuation of my earlier blog on comments on article by Gentle Rain (GR).

I kind of agree with him when he says about the way the westerns and the easterns think (he has extended the courtesy of identifying the indians uniquely).

The ease with which we Indians have adopted to the western thinking is several times rightly attributed to English colonialism (Related Who is an Indian ) , I think it is more deeper than that. I am sure that the Chinese wouldnt transition to western thought or English, as easily as we did. My premise is language is culture and culture is language – existing in symbiosis.
Indian thought and languages have evovled over milleniums and is based on very logial constructs as much as abstractions. Sanskrit, the mother of almost 80% of Indian languages is considered the most(sic) perfect language. As logical as it gets, a good deal of abstraction and complex patterns are embedded in the works written over centuries.

English (proxy for western thought) joined this league as late as 15th century while rennaisance happened. Science and mathematics was suddenly revived after centuries of interlude between Pythagoras and Galileo. The language and hence the culture (or is it vice-versa) evolved both in logic and abstraction because of the increasing need to express things in a written format.

Indians follow the same thought pattern and it is easy to absorb the western culture (Do we need to do it? is a seperate question) and hence English (call centres, anyone?)

Its not gonna be a easy ride for the Chinese. I feel the Chinese (like their language) think very abtractly and less in logical patterns. Their structuring of though (and language) cannot be directly correlated to English. The fundamental fabric of the thought and culture is different, and it is going to be a challenge to adopt English language and western thought patterns.

Another angle of Chinese thought is that it is a Confusian society – top down. There is little room of individuality and relationships are very complex. It is unthinkable for the Chinese to challenge authority (on an average).

<Sorry for the abdrupt end>

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Learning Chinese !

I was inspired by what ‘GentleRain’ (GR) wrote on his blog of how frustrating it is for a westerner to learn Chinese. It is not just the westerner, it is frustrating to us Indians as well. I grew up realising English is so imperfect a language and Chinese vexes me more. For couple of days of starting to learn Mandarin (I stopped midway though), I was harping on how Indian languages are so perfect and logical till it dawned to me learning language is not like learning mathematics. Learning language is learning a culture; I hadnt enrolled into a Mandarin course but ‘Chinese Culture course’ .

While I would anyday vote for more ‘logical’ (sic) organisation of the Chinese textbooks by figure of speech etc., I would still believe it would just teach you the language and not the essence. There may be many reasons for people to learn Chinese, the most important being to work in ‘emerging economies’ (of the Chinese world). In that case, it is important to learn Chinese in the unstructured manner – cumbersome yet appropriate. Else, while reading / listening chinese, one would end up understanding the syntax and not the semantics.

I hate memorising, thats why I chose the ‘science’ line. That was my undoing when I tried to learn the language logically, it wont work! I hate to say, memorisation is a must for languages and there is a limit to logically teach a language – then it would cease to be a language it would be linguistic science (or something).

Referring to GR, I disagree on the abstractions thing. Western thought may be logical but I dont think it is any more abstract than the Chinese. Chinese are really abstract when you see how their writing and their cultures, but where they fail is representation of abstraction using language. It would be easier for one to learn any Indian language for a couple of years and read the books and understand the abstraction. This wont hold it for the Chinese language. It is not for nothing it is said ‘It takes a lifetime and a little more to learn Chinese well’ . I give very poor marks in their language’s ability to capture abstraction as understood by western and Indian languages. Our written languages are more complete and encompassing.

Thats why understanding chinese (both the people and the language) is so difficult! With a qualified immodesty, I would say in terms of the evolution in the ability of a written language to capture the complex thoughts and culture, Indian languages are centuries ahead. Not to mention English!

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